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Wisconsin, Ohio, and other states having protests against governor bills to get rid of collective bargaining rights!

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Post by lendmeflight2 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:20 pm

All they have to do is stay out their houses and the Democratic senators will be fine. Obviously they will eventually have to go eventually. I know that in the federal congress if they don't show up to a quorum call they will send the national guard or the police to find them and bring them to the capitol.

If the democrats can't win back Wisconsin after this mess there is a problem in the party in general. No one in that state will forget this.
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Post by kjps12 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:25 pm

JaneWI wrote:Rep. Paul Ryan compares Wisconsin protests to Cairo



http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/02/paul-ryan-wisconsin-protests-egypt/1[/quote]so wasnt paul ryan backing the protestors in egypt or did he flip now
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Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:27 pm

kjps12 wrote:
JaneWI wrote:Rep. Paul Ryan compares Wisconsin protests to Cairo



so]http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/02/paul-ryan-wisconsin-protests-egypt/1
so wasnt paul ryan backing the protestors in egypt or did he flip now

I have no idea what he was getting at.
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Post by kjps12 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:32 pm

wow haryy reid wants to fight
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Post by kjps12 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:34 pm

they have not cut 100 billion in 50 years now they want to do it in 1 day. this is comical
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Post by Phillymg on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:55 pm

stilllooking wrote:Ha Ha
Just reported none of the Dems showed up so they can't vote now.
Just heard on the radio that Wisconsin's Dem State Senators went to Illinois to prevent a quorum!!

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Post by Phillymg on Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:57 pm

lendmeflight2 wrote:I know that in the federal congress if they don't show up to a quorum call they will send the national guard or the police to find them and bring them to the capitol.
Think that's why they went across state lines into Illinois!! Cool

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Post by lendmeflight2 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:06 pm

Phillymg wrote:
lendmeflight2 wrote:I know that in the federal congress if they don't show up to a quorum call they will send the national guard or the police to find them and bring them to the capitol.
Think that's why they went across state lines into Illinois!! Cool


Oh right, sometimes I miss the obvious.

I didn't consider that neither the national guard or the state police would have jurisdiction in Illinois.
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Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:13 pm

The truly sad thing is there are many people incredibly happy that the governor wants to take away the right to collective bargaining.
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Post by zeke on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:14 pm

Yeah! And when WI goes bankrupt , and all the paychecks bounce, kids are taught in lecture halls or home schooled with computer classes, those teachers can live right there in the streets where they protested! These are some of the same smug bastards who said 99 ers are lazy, go to McDonalds, etc. I find it amusing when it happens to me, tough Doo Doo, when it happens to them, I SHOULD CARE!?!?! After two years of unemployment, they will be happy if they can find a job...
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:19 pm

This reminds of a snowball that runs downhill. It starts out small but with nothing to stand in the way it will grow bigger. Some folks mocked people who said what happened in Egypt could not happen here. NOT HERE people said? American workers don't have the balls they said. Well look what is happening now??

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Post by Phillymg on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:22 pm

lendmeflight2 wrote:
Phillymg wrote:
lendmeflight2 wrote:I know that in the federal congress if they don't show up to a quorum call they will send the national guard or the police to find them and bring them to the capitol.
Think that's why they went across state lines into Illinois!! Cool
Oh right, sometimes I miss the obvious.

I didn't consider that neither the national guard or the state police would have jurisdiction in Illinois.
Something like this hasn't happened since 2003 when Dems in the Texas state house took off for Oklahoma & Dems in the Texas state senate hid out in New Mexico!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorum

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Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:22 pm

zeke wrote:Yeah! And when WI goes bankrupt , and all the paychecks bounce, kids are taught in lecture halls or home schooled with computer classes, those teachers can live right there in the streets where they protested! These are some of the same smug bastards who said 99 ers are lazy, go to McDonalds, etc. I find it amusing when it happens to me, tough Doo Doo, when it happens to them, I SHOULD CARE!?!?! After two years of unemployment, they will be happy if they can find a job...

Please read the following editorial. Some people are saying the budget crisis is being staged to take away the collective bargaining from public workers. If this passes in WI, then it could snowball to other states. If collective bargaining is taken away from public workers I don't see much of a future for collective bargaining in the private sector.


http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/editorial/article_61064e9a-27b0-5f28-b6d1-a57c8b2aaaf6.html
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Post by Phillymg on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:25 pm

I heard Ohio is next--there's a bill coming up just like Wisconsin's to remove state workers' bargaining rights. Maybe their Dems will hide out in Pennsylvania!!

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Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:27 pm

I do kind of wonder where they are hiding out and when they will be located. IL would be an obvious choice, but from IL, either Indiana or Iowa wouldn't be too far away.

The thing is, Upper Michigan could be a good choice. Wink Not too many people would think to look there. lol!
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:29 pm

Phillymg wrote:I heard Ohio is next--there's a bill coming up just like Wisconsin's to remove state workers' bargaining rights. Maybe their Dems will hide out in Pennsylvania!!

The way they run they will be in NY in no time. Then its boats to CHINA. affraid They better leave there tails at home or they will wind up on the menu.

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Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:02 pm

The topic for the next two hours on WPR is going to be the protests in Madison and everything involved with that. The host is excellent and is worth a listen. You can listen online, just make sure to click under "ideas network".

http://www.wpr.org/webcasting/live.cfm
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:12 pm

It's getting worse. State Police have been called in to round up Democrats and return them to the state capitol so that Republicans can vote on the measure. Without a single Democrat in the chamber, the Republicans cannot vote on the measure.

Didn't something similar to this happen a few years ago, in another state?

Also, the vote has been postponed due to this strike by Wisconsin Democrats:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41644074/ns/us_news-life/

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About 1,800 descend on Ohio Statehouse to protest changes to collective bargaining

Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:33 pm

People in Ohio are protesting changes to collective bargaining.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2011/02/hundreds_descend_on_ohio_state.html
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Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:35 pm

Does anyone from Ohio know more about this?
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Post by Jen on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:36 pm

I'm right next to Ohio. I'll listen to the local news and find out.

This is going to happen in every state soon.
I think I'm going to look up an article about this going on in NJ also and make a thread for that one too.
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Post by JaneWI on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:38 pm

@Jen, good idea! Labor causes are important to me, especially after reading about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire and the history around that as well as learning about Francis Perkins.
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Post by Guest on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:40 pm

JaneWI wrote:Does anyone from Ohio know more about this?

Abbie would know

I am going to email Boehner SO BE IT!

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Post by Jen on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:44 pm

Well, it seems that all of the predictions of mass protests happening in the US by summer 2011 are coming true! Imagine what all of the protesters are going to do when they go ahead and pass all of this stuff. Get ready for the second American Revolution.
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Post by Jen on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:46 pm

JaneWI wrote:@Jen, good idea! Labor causes are important to me, especially after reading about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire and the history around that as well as learning about Francis Perkins.
I can't find any articles on it.
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