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Post by Gigi Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:14 pm

Updates on the war from Richard Engel in NBC News report from Libya 3/21/11

http://www.charlierose.com/
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Post by nuttin2lose Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:25 pm

Gigi wrote:Updates on the war from Richard Engel in NBC News report from Libya 3/21/11

http://www.charlierose.com/
Welcome Gigi Very Happy

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Post by JaneWI Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:35 pm

nuttin2lose wrote:
Gigi wrote:Updates on the war from Richard Engel in NBC News report from Libya 3/21/11

http://www.charlierose.com/
Welcome Gigi Very Happy

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Post by kman Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:40 pm

Thanks for that info, Gigi
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Post by mrgolf Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:45 pm


War Costs

The cost of initial U.S. strikes against Libyan air defenses exceeds $168 million, including the use of Raytheon Co (RTN) Tomahawk cruise missiles and Northrop Grumman Co. long-range B-2 bombers, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne told lawmakers in London today that the cost of U.K. operations in Libya are likely to run into “tens of millions of pounds” and that it will be met by the Treasury’s reserve fund, not the Ministry of Defense’s budget.

Air strikes enabled rebel forces to push out from their eastern stronghold of Benghazi toward Ajdabiya as the United States Africa Command reported that an F-15E jet crashed because of technical difficulties and two crew members were recovered.

In Misrata, Qaddafi’s forces shelled the main electricity station, cutting off power from most parts of the city, Mohamed al-Misrati, a resident who witnessed the attack, said by satellite phone from the city. Dozens of people were killed and more than 150 others wounded in the ongoing attack on the city, which involved tanks shelling residential areas, al-Misrati said today. There are no reliable estimates of the number of casualties from the weeks of fighting.

Air Targets

Attacks late yesterday targeted early warning radars, communication centers and surface-to-air missile sites in and around Tripoli and Misrata, aircraft hangars at the Ghardabiya airfield, and an armored convoy south of Benghazi. The coalition struck a command-and-control facility in a Qaddafi compound in Tripoli, General Carter Ham, the U.S. commander for combat operations against Libya, said yesterday.

The coalition flew between 70 and 80 sorties yesterday, with more than half conducted by non-U.S. aircraft, Ham said. France, Spain, Italy, Denmark and the U.K. enforced the no-fly zone over Benghazi and coalition vessels patrolled the coast, he said. Both Italy and France deployed aircraft carriers.

“Many civilians were killed last night because many of the targets last night were civilian and quasi-military places,” Moussa Ibrahim, a Libyan government spokesman, said in an interview with Sky News. “The British government is killing more civilians to save civilians. This is absurd.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-22/allies-control-of-airspace-in-libya-puts-qaddafi-s-ground-forces-at-risk.html
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Post by Sunrise Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:21 pm

I wish there was a deserted island I could move to.

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Post by mrgolf Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:32 pm

Sunrise wrote:I wish there was a deserted island I could move to.

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I'm sure there is one somewhere Very Happy
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Post by Sunrise Tue Mar 22, 2011 11:44 pm

mrgolf wrote:
Sunrise wrote:I wish there was a deserted island I could move to.

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I'm sure there is one somewhere Very Happy
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Maybe I could get Sovereign to drop me and my cats off when he and his wife head off to the high seas. Very Happy
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Post by Guest Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:01 pm

Well, so much for *No boots on the ground* Can someone please explain to me why an elite force of a few, were not sent to take this maniac out? We're a half a billion into this, in less than a week, and now we are sending 2,200 marines in. upchitcreek, I've no doubt pride and panic must be running through your head at this time. My thoughts will be with you and your family until the, all clear has been given.

http://www.wcti12.com/news/27257042/detail.html

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Post by Jen Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:07 pm

http://www.infowars.com/national-guard-called-up-for-libyan-intervention/
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Post by JaneWI Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:13 pm

knarf wrote:Well, so much for *No boots on the ground* Can someone please explain to me why an elite force of a few, were not sent to take this maniac out? We're a half a billion into this, in less than a week, and now we are sending 2,200 marines in. upchitcreek, I've no doubt pride and panic must be running through your head at this time. My thoughts will be with you and your family until the, all clear has been given.

http://www.wcti12.com/news/27257042/detail.html

X2, chit, my thoughts and prayers with you and your family.
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Post by UPCHITCREEK Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:29 pm

JaneWI wrote:
knarf wrote:Well, so much for *No boots on the ground* Can someone please explain to me why an elite force of a few, were not sent to take this maniac out? We're a half a billion into this, in less than a week, and now we are sending 2,200 marines in. upchitcreek, I've no doubt pride and panic must be running through your head at this time. My thoughts will be with you and your family until the, all clear has been given.

http://www.wcti12.com/news/27257042/detail.html

X2, chit, my thoughts and prayers with you and your family.


Thanks guys !

I knew this was coming 3 weeks ago , i pray day and night for all involved !
and knarf you are right .

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Post by kman Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:15 pm

knarf wrote:Well, so much for *No boots on the ground* Can someone please explain to me why an elite force of a few, were not sent to take this maniac out? We're a half a billion into this, in less than a week, and now we are sending 2,200 marines in. upchitcreek, I've no doubt pride and panic must be running through your head at this time. My thoughts will be with you and your family until the, all clear has been given.

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Yes, chit, my thoughts with you and yours also.
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Post by Jen Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:02 pm

http://www.crewof42.com/?p=5062
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Post by Sunrise Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:28 pm

and now we are sending 2,200 marines in

The USA just can't keep it in their pants.

No Sad, truly sad.
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Post by Jen Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:48 pm

http://www.infowars.com/white-house-libya-fight-is-not-war-its-kinetic-military-action/

http://www.infowars.com/globalist-coalition-claims-precision-bombs-do-not-kill-libyan-civilians/
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Post by Jen Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:44 pm

http://bloom.bg/dSS2mr#ooid=ZpNGtjMjrX6BqBGcnF-RH9_rMvt2YODc


This guy in this interview about Libya on Bloomberg today said new world order. This is not the first time I've heard them say this on Bloomberg. Does everyone still think that Alex Jones is crazy for saying that it is what they are doing? They admit it right there on TV all of the time. Evil or Very Mad

Listen from minute 11:00 to 11:30. That's when he says it.


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Post by Phillymg Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:06 pm

Libyan lawyer Ms. Iman al-Obedi still held in Libyan custody--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iman_al-Obeidi

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42301603/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/42303905

Her cousin Wadad Omar stated that al-Obeidi had traveled to Zawiya to participate in a peaceful protest against the Gaddafi government--
Omar said al-Obeidi was detained on her way back from Zawiya to Tripoli, along with other women with her at that protest. "There were other lawyers with her, and we don't have any information about them," Omar told Reuters, naming the three other women arrested as Naimaa, Amal, and Mona.
When al-Obeidi burst into a Tripoli hotel to tell Western journalists how she had been held for 2 days and gang-raped by 15 of Gaddafi's soldiers.....she expressed fear & worry for other women lawyers who had also been detained by the government soldiers. She didn't know what had become of them.

Gaddafi is holding al-Obeidi incommunicado at his personal residence in Tripoli. Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Gigi Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:56 pm

I am glad that Obama is saving hundreds of lives but what about the millions of unemployed who are suffering in America.

President Obama Says The Mission In Libya Is Succeeding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSk5ZyzFw5U

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Post by pugsrit Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:23 pm

Gigi wrote:I am glad that Obama is saving hundreds of lives but what about the millions of unemployed who are suffering in America.

President Obama Says The Mission In Libya Is Succeeding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSk5ZyzFw5U

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I am always so torn when this country enters into a military conflict with another country and I usually read and pay attention to it because I care about it. This time I was just numb to it because all I can think of is what is my country doing to fix the unemployment problem we are having.
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Post by Phillymg Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:47 pm

Gigi wrote:I am glad that Obama is saving hundreds of lives but what about the millions of unemployed who are suffering in America.

President Obama Says The Mission In Libya Is Succeeding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSk5ZyzFw5U

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Obama is overly optimistic as usual.....in his typical spin mode.....

Theoretically if NATO's intervention succeeds about 6-1/2 million people would be saved.....give or take a few thousand die-hard Gaddafi supporters.

However there's no evidence that any success is happening.....

Donald Trump has been ticking me off lately.....but he's right about 1 thing.....since the Arab League wanted the US & EU to intervene.....then the Arab countries should help pay for the military costs.....& since China is the primary beneficiary of Libya's *oil*.....then China should help pay for the military costs.

China's laughing all the way to the bank.....

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Post by Sunrise Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:57 pm

pugsrit wrote:
Gigi wrote:I am glad that Obama is saving hundreds of lives but what about the millions of unemployed who are suffering in America.

President Obama Says The Mission In Libya Is Succeeding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSk5ZyzFw5U

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I am always so torn when this country enters into a military conflict with another country and I usually read and pay attention to it because I care about it. This time I was just numb to it because all I can think of is what is my country doing to fix the unemployment problem we are having.

I was just thinking about that myself - that money could probably employ a LOT of us. I wonder how much each day costs us confused

Damn It! I want a job!
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Post by Gigi Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:59 pm

We are broke, we have no money for the unemployed, disabled, etc. What a bunch of b.s. America is broke, right, nothing but lies.

"Tomahawk missiles. Fired in the first two days: 124. Cost per missile: According to the Pentagon: $600,000 per missile, that's a cool $72 million right out the box. Wikipedia has the cost inflation adjusted and pegs it around $750,000 so close to $100 million. See the cost of replacement may be a bit higher, but then the military types are not so worried about the decimals. It's war and in war you always get what you want. Got to protect the troops."

http://www.humanimpetus.com/2011/03/so-how-much-does-libya-war-cost.html



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Post by Phillymg Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:29 pm

Including costs of the wars, homeland security, FBI counter-terrorism, etc--over 50% of the US budget goes to military expenditures.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

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Post by mrgolf Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:44 pm

Phillymg wrote:
Donald Trump has been ticking me off lately.....but he's right about 1 thing.....since the Arab League wanted the US & EU to intervene.....then the Arab countries should help pay for the military costs.....
100% agree

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