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Are you under age 55? Bad, bad, bad news.

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Are you under age 55? Bad, bad, bad news.

Post by truth on Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:21 am

Paul Ryan and his GOP allies in the House want to give you vouchers instead of Medicare and make you wait until you are 67 for the vouchers. You will be at the mercy of the private insurance companies, and it's estimated that the vouchers will cover only about a third of the cost.

At the same time, the proposal will lower the top tax rate from 35% to 25%. It's estimated that this will result in a windfall of $1,700,000 for the average CEO of top tier corporations.

I can't believe there aren't riots in the streets over this vile plan.

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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:28 am

Another idiot proposal by another idiot!

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Post by cablab7 on Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:42 am

well i can only hope to even live that long without a job in sight !!!
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Post by Guest on Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:13 am

Things are tough for this age group.

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Post by Phillymg on Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:31 am

If you were born when Dwight D. Eisenhower was President.....


Paul Ryan says screw you.....

Course Ryan was born in 1970 so he doesn't care about older folks.....

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Post by mrgolf on Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:47 am

I am so glad I'm 62 as was able to collect early social security
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Post by Phillymg on Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:21 am

Why doesn't Paul Ryan propose changing medicare for those born in 1970 or later like he was??

Why's he attacking Americans ages 45-55 who are already suffering extremely in this job market??

Just wait till the Teabaggers who are in the age group he's targeted figure out what he's up to.....he'll be very very very sorry.....& soon.....

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Post by truth on Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:19 am

If Ryan's horrible plan to kill Medicare isn't shot down in flames, Social Security will definitely be next. Hopefully, people will realize this. The two programs are facing their greatest threat in history.

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Post by Phillymg on Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:07 am

Truth--

Actually the Bowles-Simpson Commission proposal for Social Security is pretty reasonable. The 1986 law already progressively raises the qualifying age for full SS benefits to 68 for those born up to 1960. The commission's proposal would raise the qualifying age for those born 1961 and later by 1 month every 2 months so that the age would be 69 in 2050 and 70 in 2075. However, the proposal also makes more of SS taxable for rich folks & gives blue-collar workers the chance to apply for full benefits at age 62 due to the physical rigors of their occupations.

These fairly reasonable suggestions are why Paul Ryan has decided to ignore Social Security in his idiotic 2012 budget plan. Ryan's plan has a sentence saying that SS will be dealt with 'later.'

Frankly I'm surprised that Ryan stepped in it so badly by going after Medicare for the under-55 group (meaning ages 45-55) when Ryan's only 42 years old. If SS is the 'third rail' of American politics.....then the future of Medicare is the 'fourth rail'.....

Also I suspect that (so far as the rich people who get them are concerned) the Agriculture Subsidies are the 'fifth rail' & Ryan wants to cut them by $30 billion.....

Ryan doesn't know it yet but he's ended his congressional career.....

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Post by truth on Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:38 pm

Here's the plot to blackmail Congress into instituting VoucherCare: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/155079-cantor-medicare-may-be-tied-to-debt-limit-vote

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Post by Phillymg on Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:21 pm

truth wrote:Here's the plot to blackmail Congress into instituting VoucherCare: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/155079-cantor-medicare-may-be-tied-to-debt-limit-vote

From the mouth of Eric Cantor.....who wants the US to keep giving hundreds of billions to Israel.....but supposedly he cares about our national debt. Not.
Evil or Very Mad

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Post by anyoldname on Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:27 pm

Do they still have a cap on the FICA tax? It was $106,800. You (the rich) only have to pay FICA on the first $106,800. I think they should eliminate the cap like (I think) they did with Medicare a few years ago.

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Post by aloneinpa on Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:34 pm

Phillymg wrote:Why doesn't Paul Ryan propose changing medicare for those born in 1970 or later like he was??

Why's he attacking Americans ages 45-55 who are already suffering extremely in this job market??

Just wait till the Teabaggers who are in the age group he's targeted figure out what he's up to.....he'll be very very very sorry.....& soon.....



Yes, we must make him, R's/TP pay for even attempting this BS. I've recently joined AARP, they have a powerful voice that will lobby for this age group.
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Post by truth on Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:58 pm

That's where the Ryan/GOP/TP plan is so clever. They hope that (temporarily) by killing Medicare only for those under 55, AARP won't be outraged since the vast bulk of its members are over 55. Of course, once people under 55 have no Medicare, they will see no need to support those still receiving it, and there goes the rest of Medicare.

I hope people of all age groups see through this cynical strategy. There is no need to destroy Medicare in order at address our supposed "fiscal crisis", particularly since the debt problem has Republican fingerprints all over it.


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Post by truth on Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:05 am

Here's a chart that shows the causes of of debt problem: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036

Subtract the Bush wars, the Bush tax cuts, and the Bush Great Recession and the budget problem almost totally vanishes.

Will our country ever recover from the damage done by that pathetic man?

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Post by aloneinpa on Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:08 am

aloneinpa wrote:
Phillymg wrote:Why doesn't Paul Ryan propose changing medicare for those born in 1970 or later like he was??

Why's he attacking Americans ages 45-55 who are already suffering extremely in this job market??

Just wait till the Teabaggers who are in the age group he's targeted figure out what he's up to.....he'll be very very very sorry.....& soon.....



Yes, we must make him, R's/TP pay for even attempting this BS. I've recently joined AARP, they have a powerful voice that will lobby for this age group.

For those interested in medicare, info from AARP:

http://www.aarp.org/health/medicare-insurance/info-04-2011/medicare-starter-guide.html
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