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Does Obama Care? Social Security Cuts Offered By Obama
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Does Obama Care? Social Security Cuts Offered By Obama
When I read this article I was absolutely astonished. Obama wants to win another presidental election? When pigs fly!
"President Obama is pressing congressional leaders to consider a far-reaching debt-reduction plan that would force Democrats to accept major changes to Social Security and Medicare in exchange for Republican support for fresh tax revenue."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/social-security-cuts-offered-by-obama_n_891904.html
"President Obama is pressing congressional leaders to consider a far-reaching debt-reduction plan that would force Democrats to accept major changes to Social Security and Medicare in exchange for Republican support for fresh tax revenue."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/06/social-security-cuts-offered-by-obama_n_891904.html
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Re: Does Obama Care? Social Security Cuts Offered By Obama
Obama just doesn't get it! I guess I am not the only one angry at Obama.
Here are some public comments about the issue.
southern gentleman 2 hours ago
Mary 8 hours ago
harley 37 4 hours ago
Dobby 7 hours ago
edward willis 5 hours ago
MD.ATIQULH 9 hours ago
Pudef 10 hours ago
terryt 9 hours ago
Vietnam Veteran 9 hours ago
terryt 9 hours ago
RB 10 hours ago
An old vet 10 hours ago
graywolf 10 hours ago
terryt 9 hours ago
ronnyo 10 hours ago
Triliberty516 10 hours ago
Rob F S 10 hours ago
Willie Peter 9 hours ago
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-puts-medicare-social-security-cuts-table-031442907.html
Here are some public comments about the issue.
Cathy 9 hours ago
Diana 9 hours ago
lets put the politicians paychecks on the table for cuts. we need to start a bill regulating the paychecks of the politicians to 5 % over the median income of the district the serve.let them live like average americans they will think like average americans
The goverment has steadily drained the coffers of Social Security for their own pork belly projects to the tune of two trillion dollars. Instead of cutting the payments to the deparate citizens whom worked so hard and paid into the system that was guarenteed to support them in the retirement years,... More
how about cuting foreign spending instead of social security
Yes, why don't the government try living on the average income or below! So let's hurt the elderly and the disabled by taking their checks? I have an elderly mom who lives on $916/month and has to live with us to make it, and a husband who is disabled from a stroke and can no longer work. I WORK 2... More
The answer is right in front of your face Obama.........You want cuts ????? Cut the outrageous salaries of the legislature. Cut expense accounts. Cut the perks. Cut out the health care program voted to all politicians. Cut out the LIFETIME benefits voted for one single term in office to all... More
I work in a longterm Nursing facility, most with only Medicare and SS and maybe Medicaid. When they get their monies they are lucky if they have 50 bucks a month left. Now our goverment wants to cut Medicare and SS. And- then pray-tell where are these folk supposed to go then??
I have paid into... More
here we go again we the people getting screwed again and once again our politicans have nothing of theirs cut it's always the American people who end up paying for their greed and incompentance.
To cut Social Security & Medicare will not be acceptable by most of the Americans. It will be better to cut the Military Expenses by withdrawing our sons (Armies) from abroad..
yep - now that we have worked our %%$#$ off all our lives these SOB's that have spent us into oblivion want to change the rules. bulldoze DC into the Potomac with as many of those brassturds as possible.
They can't say anything about social security increases because we haven't had any in nearly 3 years.Yet the congress still gets theirs,and cadillac medical plans.The congress ought to be on medicare , after all its good enough for us geezers
Why Social Security instead of Foreign Aid??
THer is a thing called the congressional record,I will personally post the names of every congressman who votes to cut ssi and medicare.
SPEAK UP AMERICA THEY ARE USING YOUR HARD EARNED TAX DOLLAR HERE FOR THEIR OWN GAIN !!!!!!!!
KEEP YOUR GRUBBY HANDS OFF SOCIAL SECURITY UNLESS THERE IS A DIRECT COMPARABLE CUT IN CONGRESSIONAL PAY AND BENEFITS! You have NO RIGHT to mess with Social Security to balance the budget!rity!
stop the f/n wars and banker bailouts ,also end foreign aid .
A lot of old folks are hanging on by their fingernails,but we are the largest voting block and every congressman on either side of the aisle better remember that,,that is if you want to keep your job.
He cuts Medicare and Medicaid and he's sunk on the next election-----lying to the American people is becoming very popular on both sides isn't it.
Let's see? Military Spending? Ending Foreign Occupations? Foreign Aid? Reduce the size of the 26 Intelligence gathering Federal Agencies? Cut way back on Federal Spending and not Social Security and Medicare that People have paid into for years? How about closing Unconstitutional Federal Agencies.... More
I wish the Politicians would cut their pay and very generous expense accounts... Then I'd feel a lot better about these other cuts !!!!!
Keep it up Washington clowns. If you think the uprisings in Libya and Egypt were bad wait till we hit the streets.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-puts-medicare-social-security-cuts-table-031442907.html
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Re: Does Obama Care? Social Security Cuts Offered By Obama
And here you have a WH "aide' who says the "rumor" about Obama offering cuts to SS is not true-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/social-security-cuts-debt_n_892070.html
More political posturing from the right- they stand to gain a lot (a lot of stalling) by mis-informing the public....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/social-security-cuts-debt_n_892070.html
More political posturing from the right- they stand to gain a lot (a lot of stalling) by mis-informing the public....
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UPDATE 10:38 a.m: White House spokesman Jay Carney commented on the reports concerning Social Security cuts Thursday morning.
"There is no news here," Carney said. "The President has always said
that while social security is not a major driver of the deficit, we do
need to strengthen the program and the President said in the State of
the Union Address that he wanted to work with both parties to do so in a
balanced way that preserves the promise of the program and doesn't
slash benefits."
While I feel there could be some tightening up in the program, I do NOT believe that Obama intends to do ANY cutting of benefits, period. I see the article you posted, Gig is the same as mine- how do we come away with such different impressions? I thought that you were referring to the Washington Post story.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/in-debt-talks-obama-offers-social-security-cuts/2011/07/06/gIQA2sFO1H_story.html
"There is no news here," Carney said. "The President has always said
that while social security is not a major driver of the deficit, we do
need to strengthen the program and the President said in the State of
the Union Address that he wanted to work with both parties to do so in a
balanced way that preserves the promise of the program and doesn't
slash benefits."
While I feel there could be some tightening up in the program, I do NOT believe that Obama intends to do ANY cutting of benefits, period. I see the article you posted, Gig is the same as mine- how do we come away with such different impressions? I thought that you were referring to the Washington Post story.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/in-debt-talks-obama-offers-social-security-cuts/2011/07/06/gIQA2sFO1H_story.html
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/07/debt.crisis/index.html?iref=NS1
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Re: Does Obama Care? Social Security Cuts Offered By Obama
CLO wrote:And here you have a WH "aide' who says the "rumor" about Obama offering cuts to SS is not true-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/social-security-cuts-debt_n_892070.html
More political posturing from the right- they stand to gain a lot (a lot of stalling) by mis-informing the public....
Read my post link on the article, it came from his Lips!. if you can! It isn't rumor its a fact! You people who defend his ignorance and use the right, are just plain blind!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/07/debt.crisis/index.html?iref=NS1
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Re: Does Obama Care? Social Security Cuts Offered By Obama
CLO wrote:And here you have a WH "aide' who says the "rumor" about Obama offering cuts to SS is not true-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/social-security-cuts-debt_n_892070.html
More political posturing from the right- they stand to gain a lot (a lot of stalling) by mis-informing the public....
CLO,
This article has been updated. Maybe Americans are bombarding the White House with calls, emails, faxes, etc.
Who knows?
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unemployed2long/1208 wrote:CLO wrote:And here you have a WH "aide' who says the "rumor" about Obama offering cuts to SS is not true-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/social-security-cuts-debt_n_892070.html
More political posturing from the right- they stand to gain a lot (a lot of stalling) by mis-informing the public....
Read my post link on the article, it came from his Lips!. if you can! It isn't rumor its a fact! You people who defend his ignorance and use the right, are just plain blind!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/07/debt.crisis/index.html?iref=NS1
Who are "you people who defend his ignorance and use the right"? I must be blind because I see nothing in the article you cite, nor anywhere else, that has come from the President's lips that in any way substantiates the claim in the original Huff Post article, a claim made without identifying the source of the claim. As things stand, that would constitute a rumor.
We shall see if the original article turns out to be accurate. Then a valid vision test can perhaps be performed.
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As things stand, we have no proposals from the President's lips regarding cuts to Social Security. We do have explicit proposals from Republicans however.
I'll start with this very definite Republican SS-cutting plan (although I don't agree with the word "kill in the headline"):
http://www.favstocks.com/hutchison-and-sessions-attempt-to-kill-social-security/1668148/
I'll start with this very definite Republican SS-cutting plan (although I don't agree with the word "kill in the headline"):
http://www.favstocks.com/hutchison-and-sessions-attempt-to-kill-social-security/1668148/
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Wow! Barack Boehner!
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Imo.
The Dems are trying to get the Repubs to give in on *even 1* tax thingy.....so they can make them violate they oath they took to that guy Grover Norquist not to increase revenues period.
The Dems are also trying to activate the Dem base.....as somebody said the WH probably got a gazillion emails & faxes today from senior citizens objecting to reducing SS & Medicare benefits.
Lastly there's the 'Barack Boehner' thing that UE1208 emphasized.....Obama gets to look like a centrist whether or not any substantial changes get made to SS etc. anytime soon. The Dems want Obama to win over Independents in the 2012 election.
Along with that.....there's the fact that Obama actually is more right of center than everyone who voted for him realized. Yes when he was a young child his mom suffered to feed the two of them.....but after she married that rich Indonesian guy their financial life improved dramatically. Obama went to high school at the most expensive most elite private school in Hawaii.....& eventually graduated from Harvard U. & as President surrounds himself with the Harvard elite who run Wall Street.
The Dems are trying to get the Repubs to give in on *even 1* tax thingy.....so they can make them violate they oath they took to that guy Grover Norquist not to increase revenues period.
The Dems are also trying to activate the Dem base.....as somebody said the WH probably got a gazillion emails & faxes today from senior citizens objecting to reducing SS & Medicare benefits.
Lastly there's the 'Barack Boehner' thing that UE1208 emphasized.....Obama gets to look like a centrist whether or not any substantial changes get made to SS etc. anytime soon. The Dems want Obama to win over Independents in the 2012 election.
Along with that.....there's the fact that Obama actually is more right of center than everyone who voted for him realized. Yes when he was a young child his mom suffered to feed the two of them.....but after she married that rich Indonesian guy their financial life improved dramatically. Obama went to high school at the most expensive most elite private school in Hawaii.....& eventually graduated from Harvard U. & as President surrounds himself with the Harvard elite who run Wall Street.
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It definitely seems to me that the President has governed somewhat to the right of center. Amazingly, the GOP has nevertheless largely labeled him as ultra-liberal, radical, socialistic, even Marxist. I think it shows how far to the right the Republican Party has moved.
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Instead of the Harvard banksters, Pres. Obama should have paid attention to Paul Krugman, but I guess he is too "liberal" for the President's tastes. Unfortunately too, Krugman preaches to the choir, while the throng listens to Fox.
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its all BS. Yes debt and raising the debt ceiling and also taxes etc! Its all serious, but it is also being played up to the fullest for politics. I truly believe even though Obama said he will veto a temp. short term fix,that he will cave, because if he holds to his word that SS recipients will not get checks Aug, they will have his head no matter whose fault it is! Also he doesn't want the debt arguments carrying into 2012.. But its all being played... Boehner says 4 trillion is needed in cuts and now its ok to accept half that amount! Makes one wonder if its that serious!
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Better get on the phone, 1208 and ask your Republican Senator if the GOP is going to let SS fail because they are to stubborn to accept that taxes for the rich folks and corporations need to rise.
The latest I read is that McConnell is suggesting that authority to raise the debt ceiling be transferred to the White House for the remainder of President Obama's term.
I'm guessing the Republicans are using up their public goodwill fast. Look who's caving now?
Its probably political posturing because there would need to be 25 House Republican votes to make it happen and I wonder where those would come from?
The latest I read is that McConnell is suggesting that authority to raise the debt ceiling be transferred to the White House for the remainder of President Obama's term.
I'm guessing the Republicans are using up their public goodwill fast. Look who's caving now?
Its probably political posturing because there would need to be 25 House Republican votes to make it happen and I wonder where those would come from?
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I heard them on the news the other day talking about Obama offering cuts to Social Security. I said, "See, I tried to tell everyone that he is going to do that and they are in denial and don't want to believe it." He is a Republican trying to be disguised as a Democrat.
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I think that the President is calling the Republicans' bluff. The only way that four trillion can be trimmed from the debt without raising taxes is by cutting Social Security. Are the sensible Republicans (few though they may be) ready to sign on to that? Snowe and Collins have already said "No way!". There goes the GOP big budget-slashing bluster. It's never going to pass the Senate.
Hopefully, this will pretty much put to rest the non-priority matter of the debt. We will have plenty of time to resurrect that tempest-in-a-teapot well down the road. I feel that spending should be cut in times of economic over-heating, not in a recession. Meanwhile, we have a jobs emergency.
Hopefully, this will pretty much put to rest the non-priority matter of the debt. We will have plenty of time to resurrect that tempest-in-a-teapot well down the road. I feel that spending should be cut in times of economic over-heating, not in a recession. Meanwhile, we have a jobs emergency.
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Of course, spending shouldn't be cut right now. They know that it shouldn't be a priority right now but, they don't care. They want to kill all of us off. They only propose cutting safety nets and not the wars and homeland security and subsidies to big business and all of that stuff.truth wrote:I think that the President is calling the Republicans' bluff. The only way that four trillion can be trimmed from the debt without raising taxes is by cutting Social Security. Are the sensible Republicans (few though they may be) ready to sign on to that? Snowe and Collins have already said "No way!". There goes the GOP big budget-slashing bluster. It's never going to pass the Senate.
Hopefully, this will pretty much put to rest the non-priority matter of the debt. We will have plenty of time to resurrect that tempest-in-a-teapot well down the road. I feel that spending should be cut in times of economic over-heating, not in a recession. Meanwhile, we have a jobs emergency.
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The Republicans act as though the country went to vegas got drunk on
Bushs tax cuts and War policy and is going to make up the loss by brown-baging their lunch to work....
Of course it was their partys policy that help bring on the mess, but its our lunch they are cutting
edit....and of course they are still getting drunk and that will bring on more mess (wars/tax-cuts)
tsk...tsk...tsk...
Bushs tax cuts and War policy and is going to make up the loss by brown-baging their lunch to work....
Of course it was their partys policy that help bring on the mess, but its our lunch they are cutting
edit....and of course they are still getting drunk and that will bring on more mess (wars/tax-cuts)
tsk...tsk...tsk...
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