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Post by Phillymg on Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:45 pm

Fox News quotes Al Jazeera--

Libyan envoy to Arab League quits and 'joins revolution' according to Al Jazeera Arabic. It is reported that he has resigned in protests in what he calls a massacre against the Libyan people.
CNN said that a significant portion of Libya is now under control of the protesters because Libyan military units have gone over to the side of the protesters against the paid mercenaries controlled by the Dictator.

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Post by Jen on Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:53 am

Gadhafi defiant in face of mounting revolt
Libya 'is not Egypt' and leader is not thought to be planning 'imminent departure,' U.S. official tells NBC News


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41713482/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/
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Post by elvis44102 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:01 pm

Col Gadhafi just might have syphilus or something...shades of Idi Amin.

this will be a bloody afair
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Post by mrgolf on Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:42 pm

Libya could get very nasty
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Post by Guest on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:04 pm

Its on the news now and it looks like all hell is breaking loose

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Post by Jen on Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:42 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41718646#41718646
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Post by Sovereign on Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:34 am

Qaddafi's not going to budge yet: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/02/20112235434767487.html
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Post by Sovereign on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:14 am

And the Sauds go for a preemptive buy-off! http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/2011223105328424268.html
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Post by JaneWI on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:31 am

Sovereign wrote:And the Sauds go for a preemptive buy-off! http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/2011223105328424268.html

I wonder if this will be enough to stave off unrest.
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Post by Jen on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:33 pm

Gadhafi 'opens the arms depot' to supporters
Dozens wounded as embattled leader's supporters open fire, media reports


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Post by mrgolf on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:46 pm

It is a bloody mess in Libya. It is not going to have a happy ending. Everybody loses
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Post by Jen on Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:47 pm

"Day of Rage" in Iraq: 23 Killed by Government
http://www.infowars.com/day-of-rage-in-iraq-23-killed-by-government/
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Post by Phillymg on Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:41 am

mrgolf wrote:It is a bloody mess in Libya. It is not going to have a happy ending. Everybody loses
Some more than others. Al Jazeera reported how up to 1 million dark-skinned African 'guest workers' have not been able to get themselves evacuated. The Gaddafi regime brought them in to work in the oil fields & to do menial labor. They are being hidden in the homes of their Libyan coworkers. The reason they are in danger is that the Gaddafi regime has also imported a few thousand African mercenaries from Chad, Niger, ect. & has been having the mercenaries shoot unarmed Libyan civilians. Therefore the 1 million black guest workers have come under suspicion & are in danger--many have been killed. Thank God for the humane Libyans who are sheltering the black Africans in their homes. The Gaddafi regime wants chaos but ordinary Libyans are shielding the innocent African guest workers.

A powerful guy who used to be Gaddafi's Interior Minister but who went over to the side of the revolutionaries gave an interview in which he outlined a plan for Libyan forces to attack & defeat the Gaddafi regime that's holed up in Tripoli. He went on at length about how other countries (= Western countries) might be called upon to commit airstrikes against Gaddafi's forces, how to do this they could fly into Libyan airspace but not land on Libyan soil, but that pilots forced to eject would be sheltered by the Libyan people. Sounded pretty complicated to me.....what's the point of having foreign forces bomb your land but not letting them set down in your land to refuel?? Also who's to say that a foreign pilot who ejects wouldn't land in the middle of a pro-Gaddafi crowd--so how can the former Interior Minister make such a promise??

Now here's the kicker. Mr. Former Interior Minister who's all gung-ho to 'lead' the Libyan people against Gaddafi.....he says something like this--

*We're facing an incredibly large force of over 1 million guest workers from Africa who are ready to attack us.*

OMG. Evidently this guy doesn't read Al Jazeera (to whom he has just given an interview) or he's willing to sacrifice the 1 million African guest workers who are in hiding in his quest to become the next Gaddafi.

You are right on target Golf.....it's a bloody mess. In comparison the Tunisian & Egyptian revolutions look downright peaceful. God bless the Libyan people in their struggle for democracy and freedom.

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Post by Jen on Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:55 am

Libyan foreign minister Musa Kusa is suspected terrorist mastermind, but also a CIA asset


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41858916/
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Post by Jen on Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:52 pm

U.S. Silent on Deadly Iraqi Gov't Crackdown on Protests - Democracy NOW!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79vv6yM50s
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Post by JaneWI on Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:54 pm

Jen wrote:U.S. Silent on Deadly Iraqi Gov't Crackdown on Protests - Democracy NOW!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79vv6yM50s

Just what exactly is the US government focusing on? They have been silent on many big things, including the protests going on at the state level.
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Post by mrgolf on Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:18 pm

Does anyone thing we should enforce a no fly zone in Libya. It would be a big step. First we would need to take out their air defense system
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Post by Jen on Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:03 pm

mrgolf wrote:Does anyone thing we should enforce a no fly zone in Libya. It would be a big step. First we would need to take out their air defense system
US and Britain Prepare to Impose No-fly over Libya
http://www.infowars.com/u-s-and-britain-prepare-to-impose-no-fly-over-libya/
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Post by elvis44102 on Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:12 pm

I do not want to see one American life lost in trying to get mr Qadafi
to do what any sane person would do...leave the country with 500million in hand and retire..

My heart goes out to the innocent people trapped in this power struggle...

it seems the money people are importing hired guns from around the world to help them stay in power...and of course the soldiers bring their own prejudice...

Qadafi seems to ranting on about drugged up rebels or something...as with most bits of outrageousness..there is a kernal of truth..

It is common practice to give soldiers some stimulat to embolden courage and fight off hunger..giving soldiers a mixture of cocaine and gunpowder was done in the Sudan i believe...and maybe Khat chewing or Betalnut both pretty powerfull stimulats..that could lead to fairly legitamite accustations of "drug crazed" followers/rebels...
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Post by mrgolf on Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:46 pm

elvis44102 wrote:I do not want to see one American life lost in trying to get mr Qadafi
to do what any sane person would do...leave the country with 500million in hand and retire..

My heart goes out to the innocent people trapped in this power struggle...

it seems the money people are importing hired guns from around the world to help them stay in power...and of course the soldiers bring their own prejudice...

Qadafi seems to ranting on about drugged up rebels or something...as with most bits of outrageousness..there is a kernal of truth..

It is common practice to give soldiers some stimulat to embolden courage and fight off hunger..giving soldiers a mixture of cocaine and gunpowder was done in the Sudan i believe...and maybe Khat chewing or Betalnut both pretty powerfull stimulats..that could lead to fairly legitamite accustations of "drug crazed" followers/rebels...
I know several American solders that took a lot of speed while in Vietnam.
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Post by elvis44102 on Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:54 pm

""I know several American solders that took a lot of speed while in Vietnam.""

They say Elvis P started on amphetamines while in Germany in the Army...even though he was already in show business and used to laul haul road trips...

The German army survived on speed...there was so much stockpiled in japan that it led to a terrible epidemic after ww2

Our own soldiers were given a mixture of ammobarbital- and scopalimine to combat motion sickness for the D-day assalt...quite a combination mixed with the standard speed. (the ammobarbital is half of the old standard tuinal (seconal-amobarbtal)...
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Post by mrgolf on Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:26 pm

Sorry this is off subject but I have played golf several times with Hall of fame baseball player Don Sutton. He said there were bowls of speed around the clubhouse.

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Post by elvis44102 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:41 am

Yes we are off the topic of the middle-eastern revolutions, aren't we.

But yes there used to be so much presciption drug abuse in professional sports..that to point the finger at todays atheletes is almost laughable...Babe Ruth was probably drunk every game...

Nobody seriously knows how many atheletes played with severe injuries while doped up on narcotics, say with some pep pills to overcome the inherent drowsiness of the narcotics, all officially prescribed...

I only mentioned the reference to drugs(in cunjunction with news about libya) as I haven't kept up completely on the news from libya except to hear the news in the background...

But PBS was playing some recordings of Quadafi accusing Osami bin Laden of supporting the rebels, and the rebels were all on dope...(really some utter nonsense) PBS was translating a speech Quadafi had given or something.. Anyways from outside appearances it would appear that Quadafi has lost his mind (and perhaps he has)

Once again the "little" people must sufer and die because of a few power hungry people....a real tradgedy...
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Post by needajobinky on Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:26 am

US warships enter Egypt's Suez Canal......... http://www.presstv.ir/detail/167786.html
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Post by needajobinky on Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:20 pm

'Libya no-fly zone an option': Obama gives strongest indication yet U.S. forces may be deployed in Middle East rebellion

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1362694/Libya-fly-zone-option-Obamas-US-forces-deployed-Middle-East.html#ixzz1FeUrMv4U
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