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Post by Guest Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:25 am

TomW wrote:
Need2Bworking wrote:
TomW wrote:
Phillymg wrote:We still haven't heard back from our 2 Japanese-American friends who live in Tokyo tho we emailed them several days ago. Prayers for them & their families.
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Hope that you hear from your friends soon, Mark.

I received another email yesterday from my cousin in Sendai, as a follow-up to the one from him that I posted here on Monday. They have decided to temporarily flee Sendai for safer ground due to the continuing problems with the nuclear power plants:

"We have decided to get out of Sendai, and are going to leave in a few hours from now to drive to Kyoko's family home in Kyoto. We are concerned about the major nuclear reactor problems in Fukushima, about 60 miles (100 kilometers) to our south. If there is a real melt-down and a major explosion we are not far enough away. Kyoto, though, should be very safe. I will be taking a laptop computer with me, so hopefully we'll have computer accessibility after we get to Kyoto.

We don't know how long the drive will take us. We are going to go through Yamagata Prefecture, then Akita Prefecture and drive down to Kyoto from there. A best case scenario, if expressways are open after Niigata, is a 12-15 hour drive. If we have to take surface streets, it could be easily more than 24 hours.

After we get settled in Kyoto we will try to contact you all again.

Thanks for all your concern and prayers.

Love,

Marty and family"


Tom,

Wanted to let you know I just saw Marty, Kyoko & Vivian on a Nightline report. A reporter documented their journey from Sendai to Kyoto near Kyoko's family.

It took them 16 hours by car and they looked very tired but ok. The area they are in now appears to be non affected. I knew you were concerned and wanted to pass the info along to you.
They have made it safely to Kyota!

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Thanks a lot for letting me know about that, Need2B! Niteline won't be on for a few more hours here on the West Coast, so I'll be sure to tune in and I'll notify some other relatives out here about it. I really appreciate you letting me know about their appearance on the show!!
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Glad you got the info in time to see Nightline! They look great considering how long the trip was. I am glad they are in a safe place!

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Post by TomW Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:36 am

Quiethawk wrote:I'll be watching nightline too Tom so happy for your family. Blessings
Thanks, Quiethawk. I've notified all of my relatives out here to watch. I hope that they show the same version of the show on the East and West coasts!
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Post by mrgolf Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:41 am

Fantastic news Tom. Sorry but I wasn't even aware that you had family in Japan
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Post by TomW Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:00 am

mrgolf wrote:Fantastic news Tom. Sorry but I wasn't even aware that you had family in Japan
Yes, it's my cousin Marty and his family. He moved from here to Japan many years ago and married a Japanese girl. I posted some emails that I received from him in this thread on Monday and earlier today. I'm glad to hear that they made the trip from Sendai to Kyoto okay and hope that they are out of danger in Kyoto. I checked on a map and it appears to be quite a distance from the nuclear reactors.
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Post by mrgolf Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:40 am

TomW wrote:
mrgolf wrote:Fantastic news Tom. Sorry but I wasn't even aware that you had family in Japan
Yes, it's my cousin Marty and his family. He moved from here to Japan many years ago and married a Japanese girl. I posted some emails that I received from him in this thread on Monday and earlier today. I'm glad to hear that they made the trip from Sendai to Kyoto okay and hope that they are out of danger in Kyoto. I checked on a map and it appears to be quite a distance from the nuclear reactors.
Now I remember the emails. Thanks. So glad they are OK
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Post by Phillymg Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:17 am

The NY Post has several stories with updated info on the fight to keep the Fukushima plant from melting down--

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/japanese_trucks_pump_water_into_64E3Sma9ERHrJz6X0Trm1I?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

Some details.....

--at least 20 plant workers are now suffering radiation sickness

--lead-lined helicopters have dropped large buckets of seawater but most of the water did not reach the fuel-rod pools

--high-pressure water trucks sprayed 30 tons of water towards the pools but it's unclear how much of the water reached the pools

--a plane from France is carrying 95 tons of boron to Japan for use in the battle to stop fuel rods from further melting

--they're getting closer to bringing electricity lines into the area to try to restart the original pumps but the pumps may have been damaged due to seawater so even when electricity is restored the pumps may or may not function

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Post by JaneWI Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:25 am

Phillymg wrote:The NY Post has several stories with updated info on the fight to keep the Fukushima plant from melting down--

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/japanese_trucks_pump_water_into_64E3Sma9ERHrJz6X0Trm1I?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

Some details.....

--at least 20 plant workers are now suffering radiation sickness

--lead-lined helicopters have dropped large buckets of seawater but most of the water did not reach the fuel-rod pools

--high-pressure water trucks sprayed 30 tons of water towards the pools but it's unclear how much of the water reached the pools

--a plane from France is carrying 95 tons of boron to Japan for use in the battle to stop fuel rods from further melting

--they're getting closer to bringing electricity lines into the area to try to restart the original pumps but the pumps may have been damaged due to seawater so even when electricity is restored the pumps may or may not function

Thank you for posting an update. It seems that there is no agreement how far away from the power plant is safe. The Japaneses are saying 12.4 miles, America is saying 50 miles and Singapore is saying 62 miles.

"Japanese authorities set the exclusion zone around the stricken reactor at 12.4 miles (20 kilometers), but the US urged its citizens to evacuate from a radius of 50 miles from the plant.

Singapore's government Thursday advised its citizens to evacuate areas which are within 62 miles (100 kilometers) of the plant, Kyodo News reported."

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Post by mrgolf Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:49 pm

If it was me and I was able to I would leave the country
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Post by JaneWI Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:52 pm

mrgolf wrote:If it was me and I was able to I would leave the country
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That was my first thought.
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Post by JaneWI Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:30 pm

Tokyo flight triggers O'Hare radiation detectors

"Mayor Richard Daley acknowledged today passengers on a flight from Tokyo had set off radiation detectors at O’Hare International Airport, but he offered no details and said federal officials will be handling the situation."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-tokyo-flight-triggers-ohare-radiation-detectors-20110317,0,4216493.story
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Post by Sunrise Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:55 pm

Click here for a moving graphic timeline:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/16/science/plume-graphic.html

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Post by JaneWI Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:00 pm

Sunrise wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/16/science/plume-graphic.html

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It looks like the plume will hit the west coast of the US late tonight, early tomorrow?
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Post by mrgolf Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:11 pm

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Heard on CNN this morning that the protective suits that they are wearing inside the reactor are not nearly 100% effective
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Post by Phillymg Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:11 pm

Those suits don't protect from radiation--just keep radioactive dust etc off the skin. They'd have to wear lead suits.....which begs the question why they aren't wearing lead suits. Why they aren't using robots.

WHERE IS THE ELECTRICITY????????????????????????

Here's a scary story about evacuees from Fukushima--

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110317004505.htm

Panic has set in.....

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Post by JaneWI Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:21 pm

Phillymg wrote:Those suits don't protect from radiation--just keep radioactive dust etc off the skin. They'd have to wear lead suits.....which begs the question why they aren't wearing lead suits. Why they aren't using robots.

WHERE IS THE ELECTRICITY????????????????????????

Here's a scary story about evacuees from Fukushima--

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110317004505.htm

Panic has set in.....

Thank you for posting the link and yes, why are they sending humans in?
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Post by JaneWI Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:20 pm

All I have to say is, "Wow!".

83-Year-Old Japanese Woman Escapes Tsunami — By Bike

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/17/83-year-old-japanese-woman-escapes-tsunami-%e2%80%94-by-bike/#ixzz1GtUpu1Wg
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Post by Phillymg Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:22 pm

That's an uplifting story Jane..... Japan Earthquake: 8.9 Magnitude Earthquake Hits, 19-Feet High Tsunami Feared  - Page 11 708464

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Post by mrgolf Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:50 pm

Link to LIVE coverage
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2
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Post by Phillymg Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:10 pm

mrgolf wrote:Link to LIVE coverage
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2

Thanx Golf.

Have also been following the live English-language Japanese TV link that Tom posted--

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

They really need to finish those electricity lines.....wonder from how far away they're having to bring the power. Crying or Very sad

Btw did you see that Glenn Beck has given up on the pots & pans?? Now he's switched to re-telling fairy tales.....he started with 'The Three Little Pigs'--

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/17/glenn-becks-three-little-pigs_n_836961.html

One of the commenters said he can't wait to hear Beck's version of 'The Elves & the Shoemaker'.....

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Post by Quiethawk Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:35 pm

Even if they get electricity they are gonna have a problem with all of the corrosion from the sea water... Don't know if this will even work. Not looking good.
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Post by mrgolf Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:42 pm

Phillymg wrote:
mrgolf wrote:Link to LIVE coverage
http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2

Thanx Golf.

Have also been following the live English-language Japanese TV link that Tom posted--

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

They really need to finish those electricity lines.....wonder from how far away they're having to bring the power. Crying or Very sad

Btw did you see that Glenn Beck has given up on the pots & pans?? Now he's switched to re-telling fairy tales.....he started with 'The Three Little Pigs'--

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/17/glenn-becks-three-little-pigs_n_836961.html

One of the commenters said he can't wait to hear Beck's version of 'The Elves & the Shoemaker'.....
That TV link is very good. We will be getting less and less coverage as time goes on.

Did you see the Nightline story about Tom Ws relative evacuating? It seemed like things seemed fairly normal just a few hours from where the quake struck the hardest. I wonder why they don't bus people out of the shelters that are running low on food and fuel? Maybe they are
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Post by Phillymg Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:48 pm

Physicist Michio Kaku was on O'Donnell's 'The Last Word' a few minutes ago saying if the workers are forced to withdraw due to deadly radiation levels.....the resulting meltdowns & explosions will be *worse* than Chernoble. That's the straightest talk we've heard from *anyone* so far. Apparently he was on 'Good Morning America' this morning too.....

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/physicist-michio-kaku-warns-japan-nu

Kaku says it would be catastrophic for Japan. Guessing that means the whole middle section of Japan would become a nuclear wasteland. He didn't say what would happen to the adjacent ocean & sealife.....

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:43 am

Heroes, truly unselfish heroes in every sense of the word. Hearing about them breaks my heart.

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Post by Guest Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:52 am

Tara wrote:Heroes, truly unselfish heroes in every sense of the word. Hearing about them breaks my heart.

Me too, Tara. God bless them.

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Post by Phillymg Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:53 am

Info from Reuters, CNN, & other sources.....

Yesterday 180 of the Fukushima plant workers exhibited symptoms of radiation sickness.....up from 20 workers the day before.

The company finally got an electrical line to the plant. Hooking it up to the reactor pumps requires a transformer. The #1-4 reactor bldgs each originally had a transformer but who knows now. Workers tried to attach the power line to the #2 transformer (among #1-4 that reactor bldg looks the least damaged) but going near the transformer in the #2 bldg put workers in immediate fatal danger due to high radioactivity coming from the fuel pool of #3.

We can only imagine *how* it was discovered that being so close to the transformer in #2 was impossible.....volunteer workers probably tried to do it & had to retreat with their lives compromised.

CNN says a manned pumping truck is pulling water from the sea then passing that water thru a long hose into an unmanned hightech fire truck that in turn shoots the water continuously into the fuel pool of Reactor #3 which will continue for 7 hours.

Till the fuel pool of #3 is under control nothing else can happen with the electric line to the pumps. Hopefully the fire trucks are also pouring water on the fuel pool in #4 & not just letting it melt down but whothefknows.....not to mention where all the sprayed water that doesn't make its way into the pool(s) yet contaminated with radioactivity is going.....down into the water table & out into the sea.

The brave heroes soldier on—

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8390944/Japan-nuclear-crisis-Fukushima-50-fight-nuclear-fallout-covered-in-duct-tape.html

So far the winds have been flowing from Fukushima towards the sea. But soon the winds will start circling around towards northern Tokyo.



Physicist Michio Kaku says ENTOMB the site IMMEDIATELY…..call out the Japanese Air Force & employ the ‘Chernoble Solution’—drop tons of sandbags, boron, & cement bags. Close it down. ‘If it spirals out of control we could lose a good chunk of Northern Japan.’

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